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- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Newsgroups: sci.image.processing,comp.sys.mac.scitech,sci.answers,news.answers
- Subject: Macintosh Image Processing (FAQ) Digest
- Supersedes: <image-processing/Macintosh_740376008@GZA.COM>
- Followup-To: sci.image.processing
- Date: 3 Jul 1993 00:00:23 -0400
- Organization: NYU Chemistry Dept.
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- Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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- Expires: 1 Aug 1993 04:00:10 GMT
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- Reply-To: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
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- Summary: Gopher only. No FTP. The archive is on skyking.oce.orst.edu
- port 70. This posting tells how to use Mac Turbogopher to access the
- sci.image.processing archive. Also, a few answers are included.
- X-Last-Updated: 1993/07/01
- Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu sci.image.processing:3407 comp.sys.mac.scitech:108 sci.answers:287 news.answers:9985
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- Archive-name: image-processing/Macintosh
- Sci-image-processing-archive-name: MacImageProc
- Comp-sys-mac-scitech-archive-name: MacImageProc
- Last-modified: 1 Jul 1993
- Version: 1.0.5
-
- You must use gopher. FTP is not supported.
- How to access the sci.image.processing archive at skyking.oce.orst.edu port
- 70 using Mac TurboGopher. Also answers to a few questions. Posted to
- sci.image.processing, sci.answers and news.answers every two weeks.
-
- Gopher is GREAT. TRY IT!
-
- Topics:
- About the Macintosh Image Processing FAQ
- I don't use a Mac. Where is my FAQ?
- Where to find Mac TurboGopher.
- How to set up Mac TurboGopher.
- How to search the sci.image.processing archive.
- How to search for followups to an article.
- What was said at the start of the Lena thread?
- Where can I find NIH Image?
- Is there a PC version of NIH Image?
-
- This digest is in RFC 1153 format. I have move the informative text
- from the preamble into separate messages, since some newsreaders do
- not display the preamble (this text) at all. I also added MacIP to
- the front of every subject because NN sorts the subjects alphabetically.
-
- This work is hereby placed in the public domain. (This notice is required
- to avoid copyright under the Berne convention.) You can do anything you
- want with it. But please don't change it without putting your name on it.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Jul 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP About the Macintosh Image Processing FAQ
-
- You must use gopher to access the archive, FTP is not supported.
-
- This is the first crosspost to comp.sys.mac.scitech. My site doesn't
- receive the group (it appeared briefly and vanished), but I believe
- that is a local problem. I will add information about the scitech
- archive real soon now...
-
- Many thanks to John Stanley <stanley@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU> for setting up an
- archive of sci.image.processing. Nearly all posts to s.i.p are archived
- there and the full text can be searched rapidly using any Gopher client or
- WWW client. This is the preferred method, and the ONLY method described
- here. It should be possible to make a mirror or two of the archive on
- other continents (hint). This ought to give faster response for people
- there, although Gopher gives no feedback about where it is going for any
- particular piece of information
-
- To find out more about Gopher, ask in comp.infosystems.gopher or read
- "Gopher (comp.infosystems.gopher) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)" which
- is posted every two weeks to comp.infosystems.gopher, or is available via
- anonymous FTP:
-
- rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq
-
- Those without FTP access should send e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
- with "send usenet/news.answers/finding-sources" in the body to find out
- how to do FTP by e-mail. Or just "send usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq".
-
- To obtain the latest copy of THIS document,
- "send usenet/news.answers/image-processing/Macintosh".
-
- [Pointers to other relevant FAQ files will be added here real soon now.]
-
- If you see this text as a separte message followed by several others from
- me, you must be running a newsreader like NN which has an option to split
- digests and present them as if each article were posted separately.
-
- This FAQ is in RFC 1153 "Digest" format. I understand that some
- newsreaders handle that format specially, and that they want to see the
- word "Digest" in the subject line to invoke that feature. (Feedback
- from readers requested. Does anyone have such a newsreader? I don't.
- Do I REALLY have to put a "From" line on every question?)
-
- Mail suggestions or comments to huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff).
- Preferably, mail a modified copy of the whole file to reflect the changes
- you would like to see. I reserve the right to ignore impolite requests.
-
- I will not be maintaining any FAQ files for PC or Unix. Anyone else
- who would like to do so is encouraged. It isn't (that) hard.
-
- Also, I plan to include a list of useful search terms, i.e. specific terms
- that successfully bring up the desired answers, rather than quoting the
- answers themselves. This should also make obsolete copies of this FAQ a
- little less obsolete. Please send me successful search terms, especially
- if they are not entirely obvious.
-
- I am also looking at a Mac WWW client, and someday will get information
- added.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 15 June 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP I don't use a Mac. Where is my FAQ?
-
- John is planning to write an FAQ for sci.image.processing real soon now
- giving more details about his archive. Meanwhile, you can find his posting
- by searching for "FAQ". The search terms "1mukvlINNgnd" or "2103" find the
- original announcement, and will of course also find this posting. Or try
- "FAQ Stanley Archive", which finds many articles but puts the best matches
- at the front of the list. See the gopher FAQ for information about how to
- obtain a gopher client for your system.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 May 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP Where to find Mac TurboGopher
-
- Short answer: boombox.micro.umn.edu (134.84.132.2)
- in directory /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher
-
- An "archie" search for Macintosh-TurboGopher found 25 copies at anonymous
- FTP sites around the world.
-
- Telnet to an archie server:
- archie.ans.net
- archie.unl.edu 129.93.1.14
- archie.sura.net 128.167.254.179
- archie.rutgers.edu 128.6.18.15
- archie.au 139.130.4.6
- archie.funet.fi 128.214.6.100
- archie.ncu.edu.tw 140.115.19.24
- archie.doc.ic.ac.uk 146.169.11.3
- archie.sogang.ac.kr 163.239.1.11
-
- Login as user "archie", and enter "prog Macintosh-TurboGopher". Conserve
- bandwidth, FTP from a nearby site.
-
- As usual, archie is not a perfect solution, since archivists have a
- tendency to change file names and since the file you are looking for
- changes with the version. This search string has been tested on
- archie.ans.net and it found 25 sites. Other reasonable searchs are
- TurboGopher.sit.hqx and TurboGopher.hqx, but many of the sites use file
- names like turbogopher1.05.sit.hqx. Is there a better way?
-
- If you cannot telnet or if you use archie a lot, client software is
- available on ftp.ans.net:/pub/archie/clients; documentation in
- /pub/archie/doc. Maybe it works better than the telnet version?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Apr 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP How to set up Mac TurboGopher
-
- (1) Unbinhex and unstuff it. Fetch will unbinhex it automatically while
- obtaining it from the FTP site. You need one of the Stuffit programs to
- uncompress TurboGopher. Look in comp.sys.mac.* for more information. Once
- you have TurboGopher, you can use it to get the lastest version.
-
- (2) Of course, you need MacTCP properly installed in your system folder,
- and a TCP connection to the Internet. Ask you local network manager for
- help.
-
- (3) Double click on TurboGopher. Choose "File/Another Gopher" and type
- skyking.oce.orst.edu into the dialog box, leaving the port set to 70.
-
- A window titled "skyking.oce.orst.edu" will appear. Double click on
- "Information From the Costal Imaging Lab" and another window will open.
- There you will find "Sci.image.processing Newsgroup Archive". Select the
- line and choose "Gopher/Set Bookmark" to create a bookmark to the archive.
- Then, you can quit from TurboGopher, restart it, and the archive will
- appear as an item in your "Bookmarks" window.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Apr 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP How to search the sci.image.processing archive using TurboGopher
-
- The first item in the archive window is "WAIS Indes to Articles". Further
- down is a folder "Raw Articles." Ignore the folder and use the index.
- Double click on the question mark icon, and a dialog box appears: "Find
- documents containing these words:". Enter FAQ and a window titled FAQ will
- appear. There you can see the complete history of the discussions on when
- and if a FAQ posting should appear in sci.image.processing, and also any
- other article which happens to contain the word "FAQ".
-
- I suppose that every time this FAQ gets reposted, it is going to be
- reentered in the archive. Maybe there is a way to prevent that.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 May 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP How to search for followups to an article
-
- You can copy the "article-ID" header string and paste it into the search
- box. This frequently produces more articles than desired, since each
- substring delimited by periods etc. is treated as a separate word.
-
- One useful solution to this would be for the original poster to put some
- unique single word string in the subject line. Or someday, the index
- software could be modified to treat article-ID strings as single words.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Apr 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP What was said at the start of the Lena thread?
-
- Well, you fire up gopher, open your s.i.p bookmark, and start a search for
- "Lena." Then some confusion: which one was first? Many of the subject
- lines are "Re: Re: What to use instead of Lena?" but the first one has just
- one "Re:". There are too many there, you don't want to open them all. So,
- find one of those that mentions copyright by entering "Lena copyright
- copyright" as the search terms (guessing that this is a Wais server that
- weights the replies, and repeating copyright will give it more weight).
- Apparently, it does, because the first "Lena" article on the list is the
- one I was thinking of quoting for this answer:
-
- >I don't know if using the Mona Lisa would be a problem, but using Lena
- >*is* a copyright infringment. See the Optical Engineering Jan 92 editorial
- >reponse to a letter from Playboy about the usage of Lena (that is, vol.
- >31, no.1). [For more Playboy-gets-mad-that-other-people-are-using-their-
- >images, see Computer Underground Digest's article on Event Horizon's BBS.
- >In this case, it wasn't just Playboy saying watch out, the BBS ended up
- >paying Playboy like $100,000].
- >-- sabina@cns.nyu.edu - sabina@well.sf.ca.us - swolfson@nyx.cs.du.edu --
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP Where can I find NIH Image?
-
- NIH Image is a public domain image processing package for the Macintosh.
-
- The home site for NIH Image is zippy.nimh.nih.gov in directory /pub/image.
- Copies exist in many places. It is VERY hard to use archie to find them.
- [Real soon now I will give at least one site for each continent.]
- The latest released version is 1.49, and 1.50 is in beta testing.
-
- Subscribing to the new NIH Image mailing list is good way to get in contact
- with other Image users and to get questions answered. It was set up by a
- group in the Soil Science Department at the University of Minnesota. To
- subscribe, send a message containing the line "subscribe nih-image <your
- name>" to listserv@soils.umn.edu. ("Your name" is your actual name,
- NOT your e-mail address. The e-mail address comes from the headers).
-
- The NIH Image manual includes a list of Mac Image processing packages.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 May 1993
- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Subject: MacIP Is there a PC version of NIH Image?
-
- No. Image makes extensive use of Macintosh ROM system calls which
- do not exist under MS-DOS and are different from MS-Windows calls.
- Converting it would be a lot of work. Volunteers?
-
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-
- End of Macintosh Image Processing (FAQ) Digest
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